Англійська мова. Розмовний клуб
 

Колеги, шукаю бажаючих для створення розмовного клуба. Зустрічатись після роботи у вівторок/четвер і практикувати англійську мову.

Я присоединяюсь

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Поддерживаю идею:redface:

Идея не только хорошая, но и жизненно-насущная. Получится ли?:dont know:

я тоже хочу... но живу не в Киеве. возможно ли как-то организовать скайп-конференцию или что-то подобное?

Все зависит от нас. Если есть круг людей готовых принимать участие, то конечно получится :) Если желающих будет до 10 человек, то место встречи - это не проблема. А периодически можно и скайп-конференции организовывать

а общение с носителями?

Поки "носителив" не знайшли будемо обходитися своїми силами. Попередньо: 03.02 (четвер) о 19-00. З місцем визначимся по кількості бажаючих.

Щодо розмовних клубів з носіями мови - вони є, але вони платні. Якщо комусь цікаво можу порекомендувати один "в личку"

Можно прийти с сыном-старшекурсником ?

Загалом можна, єдине, чи буде йому цікаво, бо попередньо збиралися спілкуватися саме на HR-тематику :)

я бы тоже пришла, но у меня по четвергам тренировка. Так что увы... БУду тренировать свой английский на работе.

It's realy great idea! :)

Unfortunatelly, I'm not in Kiev :dont know:
Do you plan to improve only speaking skills? Maybe it makes sense to create English-speaking topic here, on forum? Just as add-on to your club. :)
We could share/study some set expressions, which are in use in business mailing? What do you think? :)

I think it's really a great idea...I am busy usually,but English-speaking topic for practise is a nice idea.
so I'm in;)

It would be a pleasure for me to contribute. So who's going to start and break new ground?

You speak about what infringements?:dont know::reverie:

Well, I can start. :)
Almost all of us have monetary and non-monetary motivation programms in our companies. Let's talk a bit about non-monetary motivation:
- what do you use?
- is it effective?
- what are the pitfalls/difficulties you see on this way?
- how do you cope with difficulties in this area?

P.S.: BTW, will we correct each other in this topic? I mean grammar, set expressions usage, etc. In order to improve English. :)

I am a moderator! How to me to correct mistakes in this subject matter?
I do not know: you swear here or English language improve....:dont know::reverie:

:good: It is so wonderful idea!!!
About non-monetary motivation. I think it is more effective because I do believe that people don’t work better for bigger money.
The most pitfall is that non – monetary motivation is more expensive, as usual.:D
Recognition is the most broadcast device and I like to use it.
I am going to write more about it in the evening when I have more time.
And I think it a good idea to correct each other!;)

Мотя, don't worry :)
I'm sure, that nobody will be abused in this topic. It's suggested to make comments/corrections in friendly manner. Otherwise nobody will improve English. People should see what is correct and what's not correct and everybody understand, that we all learning in this topic, not mobbing :)
I hope those willing to improve language skills will be opened for critics in a polite form.

I too hope for it!
Successes to you in undertaking!
Always yours, Мотя.;)

So, Мотя, let's start with you :)

Usually we set "too" (in the meaning "тоже") to the end of the sentence, like: "I hope for it too !" , "They like the idea too", "not only Мотя, but dreamcatcher will join the discussion too"

Мотя, I'd be grateful for you feedback regarding my manner of correction. Is it suitable for you and others? Quite friendly, isn't it? :) If no, please let me know why and, maybe, suggest how it should be done in the future.

:D

Joke:
"...And we here bleach, we paint... ":redface::lol:

And so and I: I here only am a moderator, English language I do not know....:dont know::cry:

So, let’s return to motivation!:)
As I’ve said before, one of my favorite devices is recognition. Why am I like it?
1.People who feel appreciated have higher ability to contribute.
2.Thanks to recognition people feel some feedback from the bosses.
3. Appreciated people are more open.
4.Vanity is a widespread vice)))
5.Even wise people adore compliments.
Also I use and like a competence motivation. It’s a great drive as for me. Unfortunately I know just a few bosses who don’t afraid to teach their employees.



Мотя, don't be upset! The main thing we can understand each other!:) And all we learn here;)

;)

Sì, sono d'accordа: assolutamente e vèro!
Va bene! :good:
Non mi preoccupo molto ... :kiss2:
Niente, niente ...non successo niente...Ho сapito tuttо!!!;) come sempre...:redface:

But it exist categores of workers, which prefer above all money.For example, miners.. Will they work for two thousand plus deed? I dont believe...

But if we are speaking about mature womens,why not....

Best regards to Lugansk...I miss for this grey city.But it isnt strong
Blinok forever in my heart

Мотя, you are wonderful!!!!:thumbs up::res:
I see you don't worry and quite happy!)))
И тут добавлю абсолютно для всех форумчан по-русски)))
Иногда диву даешься, вот как люди, говоря (общаясь каким-либо уровне) на разных языках понимают друг-друга!)))) Вот Мотя и так и так говорила, что английского не знает, а вот надавили немного на человека и настала пора внятно все объяснить - раз не понимаете по-русски и по-английски, получите итальянский и все стало более, чем ясно!)))):good:

Sergey, did you work in "Blinok"? I don't know the period you used to be an employee there, but I can say for sure that people were happy there during Konstantin was HR director there? unfortunately, other people cannot make the same!
You see, we are talking about the devices we use. Not about definite category of employyees.And I share your thoughts! There are a lot of people who work only for money, not just miners.

Did I work in Lugansk? Glory to God,I didnt.I was ten,when we made foots from small miners town,whicn located between Lugansk and Donetsk. I often went to Lugansk,Donetsk and other Donbasses cites to business trips. I have remembered Blinok,becouse it is really well-implented business idea...If it is more...

About category,,,For example,sales manager. This workers must work on result....People,who work on result,wont be satisfied deed instead of money

By the way.....Has starorusskie already surrendered?

Grazie, altretanto, è anche: tu sei bella figura...:redface:per me...:good:
(Спасибо, Вы - тоже замечательны...:redface:как по мне...:good:)
Sì, certo, non mi preoccupo, perché sono tanto felice! :thumbs up:
(Да, конечно, я не волнуюсь, и поэтому я очень счастлива!:thumbs up:)

Ага, говорила....:cry:;):lol:
:yes::D
Только вот на клаве набираю медленнее, чем на русском....:redface:
Да еще итальянская клавиатура у меня экранная, вечно путаюсь...думаю, что набираю на итальянском, получается, что кое-что набрала на английском, а в итальянском есть такие буквы, что нет в английском....Ну, как-то так....

А вообще, Вы, Успех, правы: когда люди захотят общаться, то они будут общаться даже не зная языка....жестами, губами, глазами, все равно что-то кто-то да поймет....;)

I wouldn't define that as "soft" motivation vs money. I agree that money is important, but you'll never retain great performers just by paying them more than your competitors. It is often necessary, but not enough. I agree with Uspeh, good professionals don't work just for money, what they want is satisfaction which means new challenges, recognition, personal values, etc. And our job as HR is to develop and impement retantion and motivation programs based on these needs.
A agree that sales people are often more focused on money than back-office. But for them money and deals are the indicators of their success as professionals. So, it might be not money itself what really motivates them.

"Per favore, non così è presto, sto skrivеndo" :lol:

(Будьте добры - помедленне, я запысуу:lol:)

(Приключения Шурика)

This is old song.....I think that all hr-managers know it.....But not all can calculate the benefits from impletment of non-motivation in the money....Without this,it are only words

Sergey, as you know, we strive for two aims here:
1. We discuss different HR subjects
2. We try to improve our English

I'm going to start from the second point.
To express that something is somewhere we usually use "there is/there are": not "It exist categories", but "there are some categories" And by the way, if the first variant is possible, we should say/write “it exists”
“Above all” we usually put to the end of the sentence, for example: “I prefer money above all”
The word “miss” in the meaning of “скучать по…” we use without “for”, for example “I miss you”, the word “long” in the same meaning we use with “for” : “I long for my city”.
The word “strong” in the meaning of “сильный ” we use to express physical ability, but for mental we usually use such words as “deeply”, “heavily”, “a lot of” and so on.
About people who sale… It depends on… I know a lot of managers who won’t choose their future job only for money. I think it is some personal motivation. Some people want just salary, some want more)))
And if to be honest I don’t understand what do you mean “Has starorusskie already surrendered?”

English
 

Согласен по Скайпу.

dreamcatcher, what do you think about it?;)

About skype? :)

:rofl: not quite! ;)
about non-monetory motivation;) What do you use?:)

We use Motivation 3.0 approach based on Daniel Pink's "Drive"
and pay attention to 3 "whales" :)

Mastery: Satisfaction with tasks & role, professional growth, team/individuals' education needs
Autonomy: Freedom (to choose tools, recommend solutions, etc.)
Purpose: Involvement, having bigger picture/roadmap, sense of belonging, etc.